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Jordan joins Tim Gray for a wide ranging conversation on what happens when someone takes every conspiracy theory they grew up believing and actually tests it against their own life. They cover Jordan’s transformation from 146kg and depressed to 75kg through intermittent fasting, barefoot walking, and filtered water, the decision to move his family an hour and a half from the nearest person they know, and why he believes tap water, seed oils, EMF, and the vaccine schedule are the hidden drivers of chronic illness in children today.

In this episode, we explore:

➡︎ Jordan’s transformation from 146kg to 75kg Jordan breaks down the three habits that turned his health around after a hospital stay following a spider bite, and why he believes gym training cannot out train a bad diet.

➡︎ Why he moved his family off grid Jordan explains the decision to relocate an hour and a half from anyone they know, the trade offs that came with it, and why he compares raising children to keeping a fish tank clean rather than medicating the fish.

➡︎ Reversing his son’s autoimmune condition through diet Jordan and Tim discuss how removing gluten, soya, and fortified foods from his breastfeeding wife’s diet resolved his son’s skin flare ups and bloody nappies within months, without steroids.

➡︎ What is actually in tap water Jordan explains how to check a local water supplier’s published test results, and why he believes the accumulation of small amounts of aluminium, hormones, and other substances across multiple products is the real issue rather than any single contaminant.

➡︎ EMF, 5G, and why he will not be convinced there is no impact Jordan lays out his reasoning for moving away from phone masts and Wi-Fi entirely, while acknowledging the science on non-ionising radiation is still developing.

➡︎ His approach to the vaccine schedule Jordan explains why he has never vaccinated his children, his exchanges with medical staff over ingredient transparency, and his view that sanitation and clean water, not vaccines, are what reduced disease historically.

➡︎ Screens, attention, and raising children without iPads Jordan describes why his children have never seen a screen switched on, and how he believes screens have become a substitute for parental attention.

➡︎ Seed oils and sun sensitivity Jordan and Tim compare notes on how removing seed oils from their diets changed their ability to tolerate sun exposure without burning.

➡︎ Why he does not try to convince anyone Jordan explains his approach of living by example rather than debating, and why he treats his own choices, from intermittent fasting to skipping vaccines, as personal experiments rather than campaigns.

Jordan is the founder of The Lion Class and author of the forthcoming book Raising Lions, releasing in April. He documents his family’s life outside the conventional system on Instagram.

Highlights:
00:00 – Intro

01:48 – Jordan’s journey from “conspiracy kid” to conspiracy adult, COVID as the turning point

03:52 – Hospital story: spider bite, near-amputation, and the decision that changed everything

05:11 – 146kg to 75kg: dropping the gym for intermittent fasting, barefoot walking, and filtered water

09:00 – Why he moved his family to the middle of nowhere

10:52 – Terrain theory vs germ theory

12:16 – Healing his son Wolfie’s autoimmune skin flare-ups through diet elimination

20:35 – Is there a conspiracy Jordan thinks he’s wrong about?

22:06 – Raising kids with no screens

24:20 – The real cost of eating whole foods vs processed food

31:20 – Moving to escape EMF and 5G exposure

37:25 – Circadian rhythm, light exposure, and referencing Dr Sachin Panda’s mouse study

41:38 – What’s actually in UK tap water

46:22 – Jordan’s approach to vaccines as a parent

49:39 – Smallpox history and sanitation vs vaccination

01:01:30 – Seed oils, cell membranes, and oxidative stress (referencing Dr Cate Shanahan)

1:05:40 – Seed oils hidden in baby formula

1:10:25 – How Jordan funds this lifestyle (his sales agency)

1:11:32 – Debunking the “privileged” criticism with a real cost breakdown

1:19:29 – The MAHA movement and health going mainstream

1:20:38 – Where Tim and Jordan align and disagree (vaccines, co-sleeping)

1:26:10 – Raising Lions book plug and where to find Jordan

Connect with Jordan here:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelionglass/
Website: https://www.thelionglass.co.uk/

Research and Studies:

Books:

Products mentioned:

  • Medeau (bioidentical fragrance) 
  • Berkey water filter, reverse osmosis filtration
  • Self Decode (Joe Cohen’s DNA testing company)

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